In this episode of Proyecto 1954, we talk to Carlos Gutierrez, former United States Secretary of Commerce, former CEO of Kellogg's, and one of the trailblazers we honored at the North Capital Forum 2023 for his contribution to the bilateral relationship between Mexico and the United States. We explored crucial topics like trade and the economy between both countries, discussed his experience as Secretary, and delved into his views on the current state of the relationship. We also talked about how NAFTA/USMCA has played a significant role in the growth of North America and listened to his perspectives on the future of this important relationship.